... movement of the breath. No sooner is one excited sexually, than breathing is stepped up. Because unless breathing hits this center, sex energy cannot get moving without being hit and stimulated by breathing, sexual intercourse is impossible. The same way, samadhi or ecstasy is impossible unless this kundalini is hit and stimulated by breathing. Samadhi is the apex, the highest point of the ascending...

.... Breathing hits the kundalini, the basic center of energy. And as your experience will deepen you will clearly see even with closed eyes the exact spot where it is hit by breathing. So it often happens that with the hammering through deep breathing one gets aroused sexually. It so happens because your body is acquainted only with this experience, the experience of sex being aroused through deep breathing...

... they went up to him, their sex centers were hit and stimulated. This was only natural. But because of it Gurdjieff was much misunderstood and maligned; although he was not at all at fault. The blame should not lie at his door. The fact is that the vibes around a person whose kundalini is awakened, are such that they begin to affect your kundalini as soon as you go near him. And since your own...

... kundalini is asleep near your sex center, the vibes of the awakened one hit you at your sex center. That is how it happens at the first contact. Deep and fast breathing is bound to have a profound effect on the kundalini. And all the centers, which you call chakras, are nothing but halting places for the kundalini on its journey's way. These are the centers through which the kundalini passes. Ordinarily...

..., enhanced and flowing. And if one is emotional, his emotions will be heightened. So the most active center will be hit and stimulated first by deep and fast breathing. But very soon it will begin to affect other centers too. And accordingly a change, a transformation of the personality begins simultaneously. You will begin to know that you are changing; you are not the same person that you were up to now...

... where I live, and I carry the imprint of this room in my mind. And suddenly one day a door opens and another room appears before me. Then my whole mental map of the house will undergo a change. Now the house that I had thought to be mine will be a very different house, and I will need to arrange it anew. So as the various centers will be hit and activated, new dimensions of your life will begin to...

... frontally, the imaginary woman will hit you from within. And a frontal attack cannot be as powerful and deep as an attack from within. Therefore, there are many men who prove impotent before real women but who are very potent in imagination; there is no end to their imaginary potency. Because the assault of imagination touches your center from within, while the frontal attack of a real woman cannot touch...

..., when you are full with this thirst to know, when your every fiber asks, "Who am I?" then you are going within; and surely some center within you is going to be hit and activated by it. But because "Who am I?" is a question you have never asked, it is not going to strike any of your known and active centers. This is a question you have never asked of yourself, this is an inquiry...

... this question "Who am I?" is going to hit, is very basic - because this question itself is very basic. "Who am I?" is a very fundamental question and a very existential question at that. "Who am I?" is a question which involves the totality of our existence in all its depth and heights. This question will take me where I was before I was ever born, behind all my past...

... circulate all around, which will hit you from another direction. But normally you have only two direct ways - one is physical and the other mental. So "Who am I?" is going to hit harder; it will hit harder than deep breathing. But we start with breathing, because it is of the body and is easy to do. Asking "Who am I?" is a little difficult, as it is of the mind. We begin with the body...

... think there is anybody - Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or Jaina - who can kill as easily as a Mohammedan. A Jaina of course cannot even kill an ant - that is enough to go to hell. Killing a man is unheard of. In the whole of history not a single Jaina has been sentenced to death because he murdered; it is not possible. He can be murdered, but he cannot murder. Even if you give him a sword, it will...

.... You cannot bother him; you had better put yourself in such a position that you don't hurt him."' Now, these people - how can they accept Christ as the son of God, a messiah? In Buddhist scriptures there are so many incidents described. A mad elephant was released towards Buddha to kill him. The mad elephant had killed many people; whoever came in his way, he finished them. He was kept in chains...

..., just as you enjoy a bullfight or Mohammed Ali's boxing. All these are of the same type, there is not much difference: what you are enjoying is violence. But the elephant was bound to kill him - where could he escape? This elephant was sent to kill Buddha, but even the mad elephant recognized, when he saw Buddha, that this man was finished with all his karmas; you could not hurt him - rather this was...

... fall from his hand immediately; he cannot hold it - he may not even know how to hold it. Except for the small knife that he uses in the kitchen, he knows nothing about any weapon. He will find it easier to be killed than to kill... because if you are killed you are not going to fall into hell, and if you are killed without any resistance, then heaven is yours: just the opposite of the Mohammedan. If...

... you kill somebody in a war of religion, a jihad, what Christians call a crusade... and all wars are jihads. They are for religion: they are to convert the other person. And Mohammedanism has used the lowest kind of methodology to pervert - yes, I would like to say pervert - a man into Mohammedanism. I would not like to use the word convert.... What kind of conversion is this? You have not even had a...

.... And if you have to kill many people, don't be afraid: that too will be counted as virtue, because you have saved those people from remaining heretics all their life. The man may have lived forty years more, so you have saved him from forty years of a heretic's life. That much compassion you have shown to that man! Strange logic! But all these pseudo-religions are full of strange logic. Hazrat...

... Krishna was still persuading Arjuna. Arjuna wanted to leave; he said, "I want to renounce war because I don't see any point in it. All these people are my people: on this side are my people, on that side are my people. I see my friends on that side that I will have to kill and I see my friends on this side. These people, these hundred Kauravas are my brothers, and I have to kill these people just...

... the religion of the warrior is to fight. Are you afraid of killing, of murdering? - but these people are going to die anyway." Just see the argument, what he is saying: "These people are going to die anyway, anyday. Nobody is immortal, so if you murder these people you are not doing anything that you have to be worried about. Perhaps you have taken a few years off this man's life, but in...

... reason that anybody living close to me and carrying such statements in the mind will miss me, is bound to miss me. You have to drop your answers. With your questions, I am enough to wrestle; with your answers, you wrestle at least. Drop them and I will kill your questions. The day there is no question and no answer within you, and you are just sitting here empty - you have come home. Generated by...

... every way to kill it. That is what has happened in the past: so-called religious people have been really mad against their bodies. And whatsoever they were doing was less for God and more against the body. Really, to be in search of God became synonymous with being against the body. Religious persons took the attitude, "Kill the body, destroy the body. The body is the enemy." And really...

... Christian, or something else. We live in philosophies, systems of thought, and they have become so important that we can die for them. Man can die for words, for mere words. Someone calls his conception of the absolute a lie, or someone calls Ram or someone calls Christ or something else a lie - then man can fight, for a mere word he can kill the other. The word has become so important. This is nonsense...

..., but this is history and this is how we are still behaving. A single word can create such a disturbance in you that you are ready to kill or to die for it. We live in philosophies, systems of thought. What are philosophies? Thoughts arranged logically, systematically, in a pattern. And what are thoughts? Words arranged in a system, meaningfully. And what are words? Sounds, upon which it is agreed...

... your face what is happening inside. Dozo was a great master, but he himself was very much disturbed, when he was a disciple, about how his master came to know what he was experiencing. And the Zen master moved with his staff and he would hit you immediately. If something goes wrong with your sound inside, he will hit you immediately. So Dozo asked, "But how do you know? And you hit me exactly in...

... this bell or gong seems disturbing. In a temple, every visitor who comes will hit the gong or ring the bell. With someone meditating there, this would seem to be a constant disturbance. It is not, because the person is waiting for this sound. So every visitor is helping. Again and again the bell is hit, and the sound is created and the meditator again enters himself. He looks at the center, where...

... this sound goes deep. There is one hit on the bell - the visitor has done that. Now the second hit will be inside the meditator, somewhere inside. Where is it? The sound always hits at the belly, at the navel, never in the head. If it hits in the head, you can understand well that it is not sound, it is words. Then you have started thinking about the sound. Then the purity is lost. Now there is much...

... research about children who are in the womb. They are also hit by sounds and they react to sounds. They cannot react to language. They have no head yet, they have no reasoning, and they do not yet know language and the agreed-upon customs of the society. They do not know about language, but they hear the sounds. And every sound affects the child more than it affects the mother, because the mother cannot...

... many ways through sounds. Now they say that because of traffic noises - which are not harmonious and cannot be - man is going mentally insane, and it seems that the limit has come. If it grows more, then there is no hope for man. These sounds are hitting you continuously, but if you think about them they will hit your head, and that is not the center: the navel is the center. So do not think about...

... types of ownership kill and destroy. Ownership is a very subtle violence, it is a subtle murder. This ownership is the killing of somebody slowly. A religious teacher also can enslave somebody and kill him. There are many types of slavery. When we chain somebody, grip his neck tightly, become dependent on him, then we hang like a stone - a weight - on his neck. And this action of hanging is a downward...

... ourselves. Then violence will start again and we shall be in search of another because we cannot live without him. We shall certainly make him a slave without whom we cannot live, we shall certainly possess him, we shall certainly be his master, we shall certainly claim ownership of him. And we shall destroy those - kill those - whose masters we become. That mastership can be of any type, because all...

... all the experiences - impressions of that animal life with him. Violence is like this: suppose a man is passing on a road and is covered with particles of dust and when he enters a palace, he refuses to remove those particles of dust saying they have come with me, they are a part of me. Those dust-particles are those things which have stuck on man's soul while passing through an animal life. They...

... rationalizes his action. He says I shall have to kill him because he is a Mohammedan; he is a Hindu, he is not an Indian, he is a Pakistani etc. As if it is a sufficient cause for being killed to be a Pakistani or enough to kill a person if he is a Mohammedan. Man finds out a cause to kill, such as this man is rich, he should be killed, this man is a communist, he should be killed. When old causes become...

... kill, he conveniently finds out causes. Animals never kill without a cause. I am telling you this that if we understand violence of man we shall see that man becomes violent without any cause. So violence is his choice and that is why no animal can become as cruel and violent as man can be. To be violent is simply the nature of animals, it is not its choice, that is why there can be a Nadirshah and...

... light as a single hair.36  R. Nehonia37  derived the same lesson from the verse,38  God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints and to be had in reverence of all them that are about Him. R. Hanina said: If a man says that the Holy One, blessed be He, is lax in the execution of justice, his life shall be outlawed, for it is stated, He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for...

...  and not 'Long of suffering'?2  [It must mean,] 'Long of sufferings' to both the righteous3  and the wicked.4 Our Rabbis taught: A man should not remove stones from his ground on to public ground. A certain man5  was removing stones from his ground on to public ground when a pious man found him doing so and said to him, 'Fool,6  why do you remove stones from ground which is...

... not yours to ground which is yours?' The man laughed at him. Some days later he had to sell his field, and when he was walking on that public ground he stumbled over those stones. He then said, 'How well did that pious man say to me, "Why do you remove stones from ground which is not yours to ground which is yours?"' MISHNAH. IF A MAN DIGS A PIT ON PUBLIC GROUND AND AN OX OR AN ASS FALLS INTO IT, HE...

... that [even] in ten handbreadths of depth there would still not be [sufficient] unhealthy air [to cause death]. Again, if only a cave had been mentioned explicitly, I might have said that it was only a cave where in ten handbreadths [of depth] there could be [sufficient] unhealthy air [to kill] on account of its being covered, whereas in the case of trenches which are uncovered I might have thought...

... liability, seeing that there was no unhealthy air there? — I might reply that there was not unhealthy air there sufficient to kill, but there was unhealthy air there sufficient to injure. A certain ox fell into a pond which supplied water to the neighbouring fields. The owner hastened to slaughter it, but R. Nahman declared it trefa.21  Said R. Nahman: 'Had the owner of this ox taken a kab22...

...; WITH PEAT OR WOOD, ONE MAY NOT PLACE [A POT THERE] UNTIL, HE SWEEPS IT4  OR COVERS IT WITH ASHES.5  BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: HOT WATER, BUT NOT A DISH;6  BUT BETH HILLEL RULE; BOTH HOT WATER AND A DISH. BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: ONE MAY REMOVE [IT], BUT NOT PUT [IT] BACK; BUT BETH HILLEL RULE: ONE MAY PUT [IT] BACK TOO. GEMARA. The scholars propounded: Does this, ONE MAY NOT PLACE, mean one...

... there], and that is [permitted] only if it is swept or covered with ashes, but not otherwise: how much more so with respect to putting it back!-Come and hear! For two clauses are taught in our Mishnah: BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: HOT WATER, BUT NOT A DISH; BUT BETH HILLEL RULE: BOTH HOT WATER AND A DISH. BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: ONE MAY REMOVE [IT], BUT NOT PUT[IT] BACK; BUT BETH HILLEL RULE: ONE MAY PUT [IT...

... AND A DISH. And just as they differ in respect to keeping it there, so do they differ in respect to putting it back, where BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: ONE MAY REMOVE [IT], BUT NOT PUT [IT] BACK; BUT BETH HILLEL RULE: ONE MAY PUT [IT] BACK TOO. But if you say that we learnt about putting it back, then this is what he teaches: IF A STOVE IS HEATED WITH STUBBLE OR RAKINGS, A POT MAY BE PUT BACK THEREON...

...; WITH PEAT OR WOOD, one must not put it back UNTIL, HE SWEEPS IT OR COVERS IT WITH ASHES. And what may be put back? BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: HOT WATER, BUT NOT A DISH; BUT BETH HILLEL RULE: BOTH HOT WATER AND A DISH. BETH SHAMMAI MAINTAIN: ONE MAY REMOVE [IT], BUT NOT PUT [IT] BACK;11  BUT BETH HILLEL RULE: ONE MAY PUT [IT] BACK TOO. Then what is the purpose of this addition?12  — - To...

... opposite. Actually, as all these increase, their dust begins to gather layer by layer on our nature and the embers within are hidden under their weight. Then it becomes a Herculean task to reach to oneself. There will be so many layers to uncover that it will be almost impossible to reach the self. A human being is like an onion. Remove one layer, and there is another layer; remove this and there is yet...

... another. You are nothing but a collection of knowledge, experience, information, understanding, education, impressions, culture and tradition. Where you yourself are, you do not know. A man is hidden by his own coverings. Lao Tzu tells us to remove all our coverings and be in that which you cannot remove. Then you shall really profit. The greatest calamity that can happen to a person is to lose his own...

... nothing more to remove; only emptiness remains. Only then know that you have reached near to your simple self. Therefore, remove knowledge and profit a hundredfold. "BANISH HUMANITY, DISCARD JUSTICE AND THE PEOPLE SHALL RECOVER LOVE OF THEIR KIN." It happens usually that one who cannot love anyone begins to love humanity. It is very difficult to love one person; it is very easy to love...

.... Had you not earned so much wealth, this man would not have turned into a thief. Your hand is clearly behind this theft. You are his partner. Half the work has been done by you and half by him. I aim at removing injustice from its very roots. To remove injustice is what I call justice." The ordinary course of justice is: the thief is punished and the rich man goes scot-free. Lao Tzu tells us to...

... intricate. Lao Tzu says: remove hollow words and see the facts of life straight and clear, as they are. Banish the concept of justice. If there is injustice, see it as such. Do not hide it: do not cover it. When injustice stands straight and clear before us, it cannot remain for long. Because we do not see injustice, it remains. If the illness is hidden, it remains. The moment it is known, we try our...

..., the rule." But Buddha did not know that any number of rules cannot diminish man's cunningness. Today we find China, Japan - the foremost Buddhist countries - completely non-vegetarian. On every Buddhist hotel sign is put up to say: "The meat here is from dead animals, not killed animals." To kill is to commit violence; there is no sin in eating the flesh of a dead animal. So many...

...: "A crowd had gathered outside a hotel where a man had caught hold of a dog by his legs and was about to smash him on the ground because he had bitten him. Just then two policemen arrived on the scene. One looked at the dog and said, "It is just as well. Kill him. He is a nuisance." But the second policeman looked intently at the dog and said, "This looks like the dog of our boss...

... he was." So they handed him back to the man and said, "Kill him. It was a mistake." But then the first cop again picked up the dog and said, "No, no, he is our master's dog." This went on. This is the story of all cunning people. Cunningness means: the result is significant; the action is calculated. One man counts the beads on his rosary. A lakh of rounds and his salvation...

...;BANISH CUNNING, DISCARD UTILITY." This matter of utility goes even deeper. Our cunning is based on utility. We seek utility in everything. If I develop a new bomb, my name will be paraded in the newspapers. I might even get a Nobel Prize. But if I write a beautiful poem, you will never hear about it in the papers. What is the utility of a song? How many people can it kill; how many people can it...

... objects for him when he was alive. For thousands of years we forced women in India to commit sati on the death of their husbands for this very reason. The wife was useful as long as the husband lived; otherwise she was useless. She was a means of utility, and nothing more. So she was made to die with her husband. We know how to cover even murder with high-sounding words. We called this murder "SATI...

... will be the worth of diamonds? In itself, the diamond is just another stone. But it is very expensive. What is so valuable about it? Yet it is always in danger of being stolen; people even kill for it. Why? The value of a diamond is man-made. If you find yourself in a jungle, hungry and tired, and someone offers you a price of bread, you will willingly exchange it for a diamond. If you are dying of...

... a crime - and they were simply saying that they don't want to kill human beings. Human beings are not things you can destroy without a second thought. They are the climax of universal evolution. To destroy them for any cause - for religion, for politics, for socialism, for fascism... it does not matter what the cause is; man is above all causes, and man cannot be sacrificed on any altar. It is so...

... of reason or a question of them doing anything against me. It is just a game." I said, "Just look from the other side: If a lion killed you, would that be a game? Your wife, your children, your brothers - will any one of them have the guts to say that it was a beautiful game? It will be a disaster. If you kill, then it is a game; if they kill, then it is a calamity. These double standards...

..., sickness, old age. So even if a child is born, if he is not medically capable of enjoying life fully with all the senses, healthy, then it is better that he goes to eternal sleep and is born somewhere else with a better body. The right to life is a complex thing. Nobody is entitled to kill anyone, either, in the name of religion. Millions of people have been killed in the name of religions, in the...

..., nine men marrying one woman may not be able even to produce one child. They will mess up the whole thing. Most probably they will kill the woman! It seems man is nothing but a necessary instrument for more destruction, more wars. The population has to be reduced if man wants to be, to have his dignity, honor, his right to live - not just to drag, but to dance. When I say life is a fundamental right...

...;What is the matter?" They explain the situation. He says, "You all stand up in a line. I will hit the first person - he has to say 'one.' I will hit the second person - he has to say 'two,' because I will hit twice. I will hit the third person three times; he has to say 'three.'" Strangely enough, he finds the tenth man who was lost. They all thank him, they touch his feet; they say...

... even if you kill me in the jail nobody will be able to find out where I disappeared. Because in your forms, on your register, I never entered your jail, so the question of my being killed in your jail does not arise." He was shocked. I said, "This is a simple thing. Otherwise, there is no need to change my name; you don't have any authority." But in this world there is no freedom in...

... simply professional killers, professional criminals, trained criminals. We are giving them training in how to kill. And we talk about humanity, we talk about civilization, and still seventy percent of our income goes into killing. One world government means a tremendous change, a revolution. The whole earth will be benefited by it. Secondly, if there is one world government it becomes only functional...

.... The man who threw a knife to kill me just few days before was simply a representative of the ninety- nine point nine percent people. He was not a single individual; the whole crowd psychology is behind him, he has the support of the crowd. The crowd also thinks in the same way; there is no difference about it. He is a leader; he is fulfilling the desires of many. They would like to remove me from...

...: N.A. Video Available: N.A. Length: N.A. The first question: Question 1: OSHO, WHY IS IT THAT ONLY HUMANS REPRESS, MANIPULATE, KILL, TRY TO CONQUER THE NATURAL FLOW IN NATURE, THE TAO? WHY ARE WE SO STUPID? HEIN, Man is not a being, man is a becoming. This is one of the most fundamental things to be understood. The trees, the animals, they are all beings. Man is different: he is a becoming, he is a...

... result will be totally different. Man is a ladder between heaven and hell. That's why, Hein, it is only human beings who repress, who manipulate, who kill, who try to conquer the natural flow in nature, who are stupid - because they can be Buddhas. Because man has intelligence, that's why he can be stupid. Stupidity simply means you have not used your intelligence; it does not mean absence of...

... all around and it begins from the very beginning; from your very childhood you are conditioned to be a prisoner: a Christian, a Hindu, a Mohammedan - these are all prisons. And when you are prisoners of churches, nations, races, then naturally there is going to be violence. No animal is as violent as man. Animals kill but they kill only when they are hungry, otherwise not. Man is the only animal who...

...; The manager was getting retired that very day, so he told the truth. He said, "There is no miracle in it. All that we have to do is to change the sheep every day - a new sheep every day, that's all. There is no miracle. And when the lion is no more hungry there is peaceful coexistence." But a lion won't kill if he is not hungry. It is only man who kills for no reason at all - for stupid...

... very disinterested in fighting. Otherwise, how you can explain the phenomenon of Vietnam? America with all its sophisticated arms could not win a poor country with no scientific sophistication at all. It has been found that thirty to forty percent American soldiers never used their weapons. They will go to the war field every day but they will not kill. It is beautiful, it is something to be...

... anybody. Now seventy percent money, wealth, income goes to the army - seventy percent; only thirty percent is left for other purposes. That means seventy percent of our energy is to kill, to be violent, to be destructive. A world government is an absolute necessity to save humanity. And the quality of the world government will be totally different because it won't need great armies; just small police...

... match or a hockey match and you see thousands of people shouting, going almost mad, jumping, ready to kill each other. Why so much interest? What is happening there? If somebody comes from some other planet and watches a football match he will be puzzled. What is going on? People are throwing a football from this side to that side, kicking it and thousands of people are watching. Just a football is...

... style. You ask: WHY IS IT THAT ONLY HUMANS REPRESS, MANIPULATE, KILL, TRY TO CONQUER THE NATURAL FLOW IN NATURE, THE TAO? WHY ARE WE SO STUPID? We have been made to function stupidly. We need a totally different gestalt, a different social structure, a different world view, a different philosophy of life in which intelligence. is respected, in which intelligence is supported, individuality is...

... being bad. They know they are bad, and they have nowhere to hide themselves. But the people who are thought to be good - respectable, honored, respected, religious - they are the real dangerous people because their badness can hide in their goodness. They can murder and will not feel that they are murderous. They can kill and can go on feeling that they are doing that killing for the good of those who...

... Available: N.A. Video Available: N.A. Length: N.A. Question 1: I RECOIL FROM THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE CRUCIFIXION. THE MURDER OF JESUS AT THIRTY-THREE, EVEN MORE THAN THE MURDER OF JOHN THE BAPTIST OR THE MURDER OF SOCRATES, SEEMS SUPREMELY UNNECESSARY. COULD NOT HE, THE PRINCE OF COMPASSION, HAVE MANAGED TO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE HIGH PRIESTS, SEEING THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF THEIR SITUATION? AFTER ALL, THEY WERE...

... BISHOPS, NOT THE GESTAPO; BENIGHTED NO DOUBT, BUT NOT MURDEROUS. OR WORSE STILL, DID HE DELIBERATELY PUSH THEN TO THE ULTIMATE IMPOSSIBILITY - WHERE THEY WERE BOUND TO KILL HIM AND SET THEM UP AS THE VILLAINS? ONE VERY FOUNDATIONAL THING will have to be understood, and that is that the people you call bad are never so bad as the people you call good. The bad people are bad, but they have no excuse about...

... structure. It is not that they were deceiving themselves. They may have thought, without a single suspicion, that they were perfectly right. "This man is dangerous. To destroy this man is to save the society." And of course whenever there is such an alternative - that you can save the whole society by killing one man - the murder is worth it. The priests killed him because of their goodness...

... diplomatic. If he had diluted his teaching there would have been no trouble. But then there would have been no Christ also. And that would have been a greater murder. Then the Christ would have committed suicide. As I see it, as things are, this is the only way it could have been. Jesus had to be as hard as he was, had to be as rebellious as he was. He could not dilute his message and he could not...

..., they move in a mechanical way. There was no need to provoke them - the very being of Jesus was enough. You recoil from the whole idea of crucifixion because you cannot understand. It is not an ordinary murder. It is meaningful, it is significant. It has done much: it has created something new that never existed before. Through that crucifixion, Jesus changed almost half of humanity, forced them to...

... revolution, a chaos. They had deep love for the tradition, for the values that they had always cherished. They were not indifferent, they COULD not be indifferent. Either they had to follow Jesus or they had to kill him. There was no other alternative. India is more philosophical - too much in the head. Jews were not that much in the head. To me, the crucifixion of Jesus simply shows one thing: that they...

... took Jesus seriously. Buddha was never taken that seriously. We could tolerate him. "lt's okay, let him do his thing. Nothing much is going to happen out of it. Why kill him unnecessarily? By killing him, there may even be more danger because the death will create a stir." Jesus, if he was in India, would have become one of the AVATARS. But nothing much. Nothing much - we would have...