... could make a small lab in his own house, and scientists could work independently without any support from outside. Now, science is so complex and has grown so many branches - and each branch has become a science in itself - that unless he is supported by a government or a very powerful institution which has money, which has intelligence, which has dedicated students, the scientist cannot work. It...

... seems existence is arranging for the money that we will need to create the academy. Another very important man in Japan, who holds many foundations for humanitarian services, is also coming to see whether it is possible to bring money from those many foundations to create this world institute. And it will have support from all over the world, from all the scientists without exception, because now...

... material, and sannyasins are using them and are finding immense energy that they have never had before. He is going to come with more gadgets that he has invented. He loves me so much that he informed me that it will be better if I move the ashram to Japan, because there he has contacts with the emperor, with other scientists. And he is ready to found the academy and provide the money that will be needed...

... - and it is going to be an enormous amount of money. But I have informed him that Japan is running out of land. It is the most crowded country in the world; they have even made artificial islands in the ocean, and they have floated a few to create industries on them. Secondly, Japan is very costly. Its currency is now the most valuable in the world. It will prevent my poor sannyasins from going there...

... ... and to be there for months will be too costly. I have called him and I am certain I will convince him that this is the right place. The whole of Koregaon Park is for sale! - and we are finding sources of money to purchase the whole of Koregaon Park. Then all the gadgets can be used by every sannyasin. Mechanisms can be managed to purify water, to purify air - because Poona is utterly polluted. But...

... layers. We have the source from where the money can be brought here; just we have to work out the process. This whole Koregaon Park is going to be turned into the World Academy of Creative Science and Art. It will be also a research body, and it will also have its nursing homes, hospitals. Without such a thing happening, this century is going to see us finished. Dr. Masashi Murakoshi was concerned that...

... after 2001 I will leave! That simply gives him the guarantee so that he can bring all the scientists and the sources and the foundations and the money. Without me, I can understand, it will be impossible to create such a vast project. But it is an absolute necessity, seeing the crisis that is coming every moment closer - and people are even avoiding talking about it, afraid because they don't have any...

... world the idea that misery is unnatural, that sadness is sickness, that the lust for power needs psychiatric treatment, that a man who goes on gathering money is mad. And once we make the whole of humanity aware of the dangers of our past ways of life and where the whole past is leading us - to a global suicide - it will not be difficult to convince the intelligent, the young, to drop the past and to...

... lab he is a totally different person. It is said about Karl Marx that one day he brought many boxes of cigarettes to his home. The wife was a little puzzled. n are more together than men; they are more earth-bound, more earthly and live more closely to the present. The wife asked, "What made you bring so many cigarettes? And we are out of money!" He said, "Don't be worried at all! I...

... have found a secret way of earning money, that's why I have purchased so many cigarettes. I will tell you the secret. Just along the way while coming back home I thought about an economic law: that if you smoke twelve cigarettes per day and you can find cheaper cigarettes, then with each cigarette you will be saving money, so the more you smoke the more money is saved! So now there is no need to...

... worry about money. I will simply smoke and money will be saved! And I have found the cheapest brand. So much money will be saved that now you need not worry!" The woman thought he had gone mad! He closed his doors and started smoking, two cigarettes at a time, because he was in such a hurry to earn money! And the woman rushed to one of his friends, Friedrich Engels, and told him the whole thing...

... when he had to go to Paris for a business trip. In that city of love he easily fell victim to the amorous advances of the pretty mademoiselles. But somehow Mrs Gold found out about it. She wired her husband at his hotel, "Come home! Why spend money there for what you can get here for free?" The next day she received a cable in reply: "I know you and your bargains!" Just a...

... 'I am not and the whole is.' If you feel the boundary you are limited, small. Then your limitation gives pain, hurts - so limited, so small. Then you want to become big. Just see the mechanism of the ego. First the ego makes you feel small; it creates a sort of inferiority that 'I am so tiny against such a big world, I have to be big - big in money, big in power. I have to be the president or the...

... for profit become possible. This whole society exists in greed and fear. Once a child has learned the ways of greed, then for his whole life he will be rushing after money or power or prestige. He will be losing his whole life in something absolutely non-essential. Money is not important, remember, money is important because you have got the idea of the ego. Many people drop money, they renounce...

... money. In India it happens that people renounce their money and they think they have renounced something really essential. It is nothing - because money is secondary. One never loves the money for money's sake, one loves the money for the ego's sake. You have one million dollars, your ego feels puffed up. You can renounce one million dollars and you can go to the Himalayas and you can still feel...

... puffed up with the idea that 'I have renounced a million dollars. Many people have a million dollars but how many renounce them?' Now you are getting still higher. The very idea that very few people can renounce such a lot of money with such ease will make your ego a little bigger. So those who renounce have very subtle egos. If you are a president of a country and you renounce it and you say, 'Now I...

... world there is nothing, this world is all nonsense. Death comes and everything is taken away. I will seek some eternal power.' But it is still power.... 'This world's money is not very significant. I will seek some other kind of treasure which is eternal, which will remain with me.' Then again you become an egoist with new names - spiritual power, miraculous power. There are three ways that the so...

... doing them he is no longer spiritual, not at all. He has fallen to the status of a magician. Now there is nothing of spirituality left. Just as people want to show their money he wants to show his psychic powers. But the showman is there - so he is as much part of the show business as anybody else. Around a spiritual man miracles happen, real miracles. These are not real miracles - that you can...

... wife wants you to go on and on earning money, purchasing bigger and bigger houses, having more diamonds, more gold, more money in the bank, bigger insurance policies and all that. If you lose the ego your ambition disappears. Then you are concerned with ambition no longer, then you are driving yourself mad no longer. Of course you will be healthy, but who bothers about a healthy husband? You will not...

... you cannot possess God - so power can never be spiritual. With God you have to be possessed by him, you cannot possess him. If you possess something then the ego will be there. Who is this one who claims that 'I possess'? 'I possess money, I possess a political post, or I possess spiritual power' - but the 'I' continues to possess. The 'I' is possessiveness. Through possessiveness the ego exists...

... decisive factor. The sutras: THE ESSENCE OF THE WAY IS DETACHMENT. It is true. All of our miseries are nothing but attachment. Our whole ignorance and darkness is a strange combination of a thousand and one attachments. And we are attached to things which will be taken away by the time of death, or even perhaps before. You may be very much attached to money but you can go bankrupt tomorrow. You may be...

... money, our prestige, respectability, they are all soap bubbles. And certainly, THE ESSENCE OF THE WAY IS DETACHMENT. Don't get attached to the soap bubbles; otherwise you will be continuously in misery and agony. Those soap bubbles don't care that you are attached to them; they go on bursting and disappearing into the air and leaving you behind with a wounded heart, with a failure, with a deep...

... railway stations, in airports, small children dragging their teddy bears with them, ugly, dirty, but to them they are very essential. Without them they cannot sleep; the teddy bear is their companion. They will become older and they will drop the teddy bear but they will drop it only when they have found another teddy bear. It does not matter what the shape of the teddy bear is -- it can be money. I...

... are you going? Have you counted your rupees? -- because if there are ninety nine and suddenly you feel like going to the urinal, you will be stuck. And he would immediately count his money and he would say, "There is no problem. One hundred rupees is a must. Without it I cannot do even such a small thing as pissing -- what to say about great things?" That was his teddy bear. He used to...

... again. And death and life are not in the hands of man, they are decided by fate. If she's going to die, she will die whether I call the physician or not. Why waste money? If she is going to live, she will live. Either way, a physician is absolutely unnecessary." The friends said, "We have never thought that you are so greedy. We have always heard that you are greedy -- but so much! Do you...

... think you are going to take all your money with you when you die?" He said, "Of course. I have a plan." They could not believe him. They said, "What plan?" He said, "Before I die I will take all the money in a boat, go deep into the ocean and jump with all my money, into the ocean." The friends could not believe their ears. They said, "Are you mad or something...

...? Still your money will be left in the ocean and you will have to go alone." At least there would be a satisfaction that nobody else was enjoying his money. You will find all kinds of greedy people and you will find all sorts of greed within yourself. And when greed is not fulfilled, anger arises, frustration arises. You become angry with the world, you become angry with yourself, you become angry...

... world, and you will go empty-handed out of the world. Everything that you have is not yours. Your house is nothing but a caravanserai. Your money is not your money; you have exploited for it. Your land is not your land; it was always there before you came and it will remain there after you are gone. What is yours? You can only give that which is yours, you cannot give that which is not yours. You...

... screams that are in you are all released. But Janov has failed the same way as Sigmund Freud has failed. Psychoanalysis has not been able to give man his spirituality, his being, his freedom. Of all that it has promised, not a single thing has been delivered, and millions of people have wasted their time and money for nothing. Now Janov has done the same number again. One primal scream releases you, but...

... ancient. They have gone to other therapies because there are other geniuses, and any type.... Now one of my sannyasins who is here invented a therapy - hugging therapy. The whole hour, the whole session, everybody is hugging everybody else... but in California, everything goes, and he was earning a lot of money. The strangest thing is, that you can tell the Californians any stupid thing and they will do...

... better - include me out. Don't put me in this game. There are many who are mad, who want to compose question papers because that brings money, who want to examine answer copies because that brings money. I am simply refusing money - anybody else will be happy to have it. Make somebody happy." He looked at me and he said, "I have always thought that in your eccentricities, there is always...

... anything because we have nothing to lose, and we have the whole universe to gain. You are right on the doorstep of the temple of God. Love is the beginning, God is the journey. God is not the goal, God is the pilgrimage. I am reminded of Al Hillaj Mansoor, a great Sufi mystic. He was young, but very poor. He collected money, borrowed money, tried to earn, because he wanted to go to Mecca for a pilgrimage...

.... For Mohammedans, one of the essential things is that at least one time in your life, you should go for a pilgrimage to Mecca, the place where Mohammed created the whole world of Islam. Finally, after three years, he had enough money to go. The whole town had come to bid him farewell. As he left the people and was leaving the town boundaries, he saw an old man, sitting under a tree. It was a...

... crossroad, so he had to ask him: "Which road goes to Mecca?" The old man said, "Come here," and the way he said "Come here" was such that Al Hillaj's Mansoor had to go. The man said, "No road goes to Mecca! But if you are interested in the pilgrimage, that is possible, and there is no need to go anywhere. First, put everything, all your money and everything in front of...

... me." He was saying it in such a way... he had a certain charisma around him; whatever he said, Al Hillaj had to do. He hesitated a moment - "He is going to take all my money! Three years I have worked... but what to do? Looking at the man, money seems worthless. Looking into his eyes, it seems you have reached Mecca." And the old man laughed, "Right! You are understanding it...

... only be outside, they should be inside, too." He went back home. The whole town gathered. They said, "What happened?" Because Mecca in those days used to take at least four to six months, going and coming. "You are back! We have just reached home and you are back. What happened?" He said, "Mecca came to meet me outside the town and asked me to give all my money. I took...

..., " You don't understand my problem. I cannot touch money. He keeps the money to pay the taxi driver. I always have him with me; otherwise how can I manage to come here?" I said, "It is strange. It is your money -- he is the keeper. You are famous for not touching money and this poor fellow will fall into hell. He is touching YOUR money! It is not even his! What kind of karma is he...

... committing? Touching one's own money is bad and touching somebody else's money -- that must be worse." I said, "Think of this poor man also. If it is your money, whether you touch it or not ...or you can purchase rubber gloves. Make it simple so you can touch the money but still you are not touching it." But that will not make somebody a saint. If somebody is wearing rubber gloves and having...

... all kinds of money with him, you will not call him a saint. This seemed to be very cunning man ...but having another person is not very different either. So there are people who are silent, but inside they are boiling. They want to speak and they find ways of speaking by making gestures, which is a very difficult thing because they become absolutely dependent, almost slaves, on the person who...

... anything. It is beyond its power to tell Nepal, "Please don't cut the trees." In the first place, even if Nepal stops cutting the trees, the wrong has already been done. And in the second place, Nepal cannot stop cutting those trees; it has sold them even for the future thirty years. It has taken the money to survive. A similar kind of situation exists in many areas of the world. There are many...

... was just to do business, sell things, accumulate money. All their violence became their greed. That is the reason why they are the only people in India who don't have beggars; they are the richest people in India. But this is a kind of sucking the blood of the society. Everything else is being done by somebody else, and the money somehow goes on moving into hands which don't do anything. Mahavira...

.... Everybody has taken a certain portion of life, ignoring the remaining parts which are essentially joined with it. There are people... for example, the man who created the Nobel Prize committee was the greatest arms producer in the first world war. He earned so much money out of the production of war materials that he created a Nobel Prize for peace. There is so much money that every year dozens of Nobel...

... Prizes are given - with each Nobel Prize two hundred and fifty thousand dollars also are given - and this all comes only from the interest on the money. The basic money remains in the banks of Switzerland. It will continue forever to give twelve Nobel Prizes per year for creating arts, for creating peace, for creating great poetry, painting, science. And the man who created the money created it by...

... books. The federal government was giving money to it, as to any city; the state government was giving money to it. They managed a very tricky thing. They persuaded the president of the Mormons to send a message to the judge, "You have been chosen by God to go to Nigeria for missionary work." I wrote a letter to him, saying, "It is very strange that in the whole world God has chosen you...

... at any price. What you will do with a desert? We purchased it, knowingly that it is going to be a great challenge. But to accept challenges has been one of my loves. We accepted the challenge, and jumped into the unknown. Our people worked as hard as people may never have worked anywhere - twelve hours, fourteen hours, sometimes sixteen hours. We poured as much money as our people could manage...

... these people have managed a kind of utopia, the politicians, the priests, became afraid. What you have been doing for thousands of years, if in four years these people can turn the desert - you have beautiful land, you have all the power and all the money, and all that you create is a miserable, suffering humanity. This comparison is intolerable. They wanted to destroy it at any cost; and they...

... had to write his whole life about communism, Soviet Russia has been for seventy years trying to bring it - it does not come. The country is still poor; and I managed it by a simple thing. I simply stopped money circulation in the commune. There is no need to destroy the rich; there is no need to bring a dictatorship of the proletariat. We simply stopped money circulation in the commune. And if money...

... circulation is stopped, you may have millions of dollars and I may have none; but if the money is not used, who is rich and who is poor? And everything that you need will be given by the commune; and we had everything - the hospital, the school, the university. We made the desert yield enough crops for five thousand people - vegetables, fruits, milk products. And for the first time I tried an experiment...

... been committed. Innocence cannot be proved. Only guilt can be proved or disproved. You have not been able to prove any crime, but still the U.S. Attorney wanted - six other my sannyasins were with me, he was willing to bail them out - but he insisted that my bail should be given in Oregon, because I am a dangerous man. I have unaccountable sources of money, and I have thousands of friends who can do...

... anything for me. These were my crimes, that was I cannot be bailed out; that I have thousands of friends, that they can do anything for me, that I have unaccountable money sources. So it is better that I should be sent back under police custody to Oregon, and in Oregon court we should decide about the bail. If there has been any fair-minded judge, he could have seen that these are not crimes. That means...

... government gives every Red Indian certain pension, and no work. So all that they do, they gamble, they drink, and they produce children, because the more children they have the more pensions they will be having. "And they are no more interested in any liberty, any freedom. Why they should be? Because without work you get money, enough money, more than you can get by employment; and they all have...

... OF ALL. WHO ARE THEY TO CURE OTHER PEOPLE'S ABNORMALITY? YOU HAD BETTER GO STRAIGHT HOME INSTEAD OF WASTING YOUR MONEY.' Tao is a unique vision. It is a vision, mind you, a DARSHANA, it is not a philosophy. It is a clarity, a transparency, but not an ideology. It does not propose any system of thought - it does not propose anything at all. It neither proposes anything, nor supposes anything. It is...

... is normal, because whatsoever you call the growing-up process is the process of turning people abnormal. For example: a man is obsessed with money; he is abnormal. Why should one be obsessed with money? You cannot eat it, you cannot love it, you cannot be loved by it. It cannot give you life, it cannot give you beauty, it cannot give you joy. But there are millions of people who are madly in love...

... with money - money is their God, their only God. Now these are abnormal people. Once this abnormality settles then there arises another abnormality: a few people renounce money and become great mahatmas. First these mad people are obsessed with money, then a new obsession arises from that obsession - they become obsessed with the fear of money. If you take money to Vinoba Bhave he will not touch it...

.... Now what is wrong in touching money? A poor currency note is just paper - why are you so afraid of touching it? There is some deep fear. And fear is nothing but lust standing on its head; deep down there is still some desire. The fear is that, 'If I touch the money I may again become interested in it.' A man who is free of money will use the money and he will not be obsessed either way, for or...

... against. He will live in the world, he will not renounce the world there is 11o need. You cannot drop out of one madness by creating another - you are simply changing your madness. Your so-called money-mad people are mad and your mahatmas are just at the other extreme of the same madness. They are not different. Somebody who is mad after prestige, power, pull, is abnormal. Sitting on a very high chair...

... with yourself? Everything has become upside down. You are living for the non-essential and you have forgotten the essential. You are living for things, and things will be taken away when death comes. Money, power, prestige - nothing is going to be with you when death comes. Only that person lives who lives in such a way that death cannot destroy anything; who creates his inner being in such a way...

... he was mad while he ruled Germany. Politicians, power-addicted people, money-mad people - nobody thinks that they are mad. But if somebody sitting under a tree starts laughing for no reason at all you think he is mad. He is not doing any harm to anybody. And he may have some reason to laugh which may not be apparent to you. And, finally, what is WRONG if somebody laughs without any reason? Why is a...

... inner, both. WHO ARE THEY TO CURE OTHER PEOPLE'S ABNORMALITY? YOU HAD BETTER GO STRAIGHT HOME INSTEAD OF WASTING YOUR MONEY. Look at this advice. You may not be able to understand immediately, but the message is very simple. The message is: don't interfere. The message is: don't judge. The message is: you are nobody to change somebody else. That is not your responsibility. You are not meant to do that...

..., the chancellor of the university left. The woman who had collected thirty-three million dollars -- the initial money that started the commune, she had to leave, she forced her to leave because she took all power from her hands. It was so insulting that she has to leave. Slowly slowly she has dropped all the people who could be suspected to go against her. So naturally the people who had left were...

... HER. A:* No. It is the same Sheela. What happened was just whatever she was carrying in her unconscious -- she may not have been aware, when she got the opportunity.... She was just a waitress, and now she got millions of dollars in her hands. Her old secretary's letter yesterday has come that she had opened a private account in Switzerland in her own name. The money that was to come here slowly she...

... that she started saving little bits in Switzerland, money that was coming from Europe, so she started accumulating her own account there. Her old secretary's letter yesterday informed me that she has accumulated forty-three million dollars. Q:* FORTY-THREE MILLION DOLLARS SHE HAS? A:* Yes. Q:* -- OF MONEY THAT BELONGS TO THE COMMUNE? A:* That belongs to the commune, that should have come here. Q...

... stories that it seems just unbelievable. They have bugged even my room. And they have bugged the whole hotel. They have bugged every house they suspected that there are people who may be one day not be with them. Q:* BHAGWAN, WAS THE REASON FOR THIS TO STEAL MONEY? IS THAT AT THE BASE OF IT? DID THEY WANT TO TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN? A:* No, not only that because money was already there and nobody knows...

..., and nobody knew. This letter has come yesterday... (Interruption for tape change) The money they had already got there in their own name, and here they were doing all these crimes to keep the whole commune under their control. And because I started speaking, two things happened. One, Sheela lost her big ego that she has accumulated in three and a half years, she lost her face on the television...

... more now getting nourishment for your ego.'" Q:* BHAGWAN, DID, DID SHE AND HER GANG STEAL SO MUCH MONEY FROM THE COMMUNE THAT THE COMMUNE COULD BE IN FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY? A:* No, the commune can never be in financial difficulty. We have one million sannyasins around the world. And my sannyasins are all rich, all intelligent, all professional people. There is no problem: just a word from me and...

... your safety, if in any case you have to leave America, then we should keep some money there." But I said, "If it was for my sake, at least I should be made aware of it. And how much money is there? I should be made aware of it. What is the number of your bank account? What bank it is? I don't know anything; you have never told me." She said, "Tomorrow I will be bringing every...

... telling me. I was silent. I had no idea. Sheela has simply informed me only one thing: that they have surplus money out of the annual festival, so they want to do some humanitarian job, that's why she is bringing these people. I said, "If it is a humanitarian job, perfectly good, do it." Now, as I have started speaking, people have revealed to me that it was not humanitarian, it was just the...

... NARCOTICS AMONG YOUR SANNYASINS, DRUGS, SPECIFICALLY THE DRUG ECSTASY. AND SHE GOES ON TO CHARGE THAT WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE, SANNYASINS WERE INDUCED TO SIGN OVER MONEY AND BELONGINGS WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS. A:* I know ecstasy, but ecstasy can be a drug I am hearing for the first time. I have never heard before even the name, and I was in silence and isolation for three-and-a-half years. I was...

... people have been drugged to take money from them, then it must be she. Because all the money that the commune has received has come from donations far away -- from Europe, Asia, Australia. And she has stolen forty- three million dollars out of that money. Perhaps she has been drugging people and taking the money to Switzerland. Q:* SHE SAYS THAT YOU THREW TEMPER TANTRUMS AND WOULD THREATEN TO COMMIT...