... Babylonian Talmud: Baba Bathra 42         Previous Folio / Baba Bathra Contents / Tractate List / Navigate Site Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Baba Bathra Folio 42a have only themselves to blame.1 But did Rab indeed give this ruling? Have we not learnt [in a Mishnah]: If a man lends money to another on a bond, he may recover his debt even from property on which there is a lien2...

... recovered either from the heirs [of the debtor] or from those who have [subsequently] purchased [from him].4  — Are you arguing from a loan to a sale? When a man borrows money, he does so as secretly as possible, in order that his property may not depreciate.5  If he sells land, however, he does so as publicly as possible, in order that people may know about it.6 Our Rabbis taught: If the...

.... Because anyone who lent the borrower money or bought from him subsequently ought to have known that there was already a prior claim on him. I.e., in the presence of witnesses but without a bond. Which is equivalent to saying that it cannot be recovered from property on which there is a lien. As it will if people know that he is pressed for money. And so he may have more offers. Hence there is no...

...; Said Abaye: The possibility of eating 'flesh of nebelah:3  We are not to presume that while the Israelite turned his face, the heathen dropped some nebelah into his pot; as a parallel case, here too the Sages should not mind the possibility of receiving money of an idolater.4  Raba said, what the Sages did not mind there is the cooking by a heathen; the parallel being that here too, the...

..., but in the case of the coins where this could not be done, the prohibition does not apply. If, on the other hand, we were given the case of the coins only [we might say that the prohibition holds good] because only a loss of money is incurred, but in the case of the thorn, where pain is caused, the prohibition is not to be applied. Were we given both these instances, [we might still say that the...

... bazaar merely because of the festival held at Gaza in proximity to it. What kind of prohibition was disregarded in the case of Tyre, which might offer an analogy to our case? [H], flesh of any animal, even a clean one, which dies of itself, or which is not slaughtered in accordance with ritual law and is forbidden to a Jew. We are not to assume that the money paid by the heathen outside the city for...

... as a parallel to transacting business with an idolater, on his festival, when he is dealing with his own money and not with that appertaining to idolatry — so that only a Rabbinic enactment is involved, in which case the proximity of the Bazaar of Gaza to the town might be overlooked. According to Rabbah b. 'Ulla the case of Tyre does not offer a parallel for disregarding even a Rabbinic...

... employer. If, therefore, the foodstuff was prohibited, the employer exchanged his money for what was illegal. In the case of R. Jannai's School, however, the poor were not accustomed to give credit, so that we have not here an instance of unlawful exchange. Viz., that the decision rests on whether he gives him credit. V. Glos. As soon as the loan is made, the lender is technically the owner of what had...

... case he must be concerned about unlawful foodstuffs. I.e., I will set off what you have had against the money which I have already given the shopkeeper. In that case the employer became the owner of the foodstuffs and must be concerned about their legality, whether he took them on credit or not. 'Go out' implies that he does not accompany them and therefore he could not hand the food to them. May he...

... use the money he earned in this way? So that he may have the work of breaking it and earn money. Tractate List / Glossary / / Bible Reference                                                             ...

..., and channeling their dirty money to Brussels, Switzerland, and Cairo, Egypt. 2. Canada has a very large Illuminati and Templar Knight community (they are hand in glove groups) that worship ancient deities. The gold or bronze statue of Baal is in a holy grove on a large private estate between Quebec and Montreal. Since I was only 12 years old when I went there, the details aren't quite as clear. But...

... pedophiliacs, they abuse and torture small children and teach them under duress to become perpetrators themselves from earliest infancy. This alone means they should be stopped. They run the porn industry, along with other groups such as the Mafia. They make enormous amounts of money from drug smuggling, gun running, and human slavery (oh, yes, the buying and selling of human beings is alive and well in the...

... 21st century). They are involved in evil and money making in the extreme. If a profit is being made off of human suffering, you can trace the chain back somewhere to these people. 2. They have money and lawyers that could blast anyone confronting them out of the water. 3. They have infiltrated our government, and the governments of every country in the world, and well as the judicial and legal...

... force even if he gave him an order to a trader or a money-changer in his favour; but Scripture teaches, 'with thee',10  but not if he gave him an order to a trader or a money-changer on his behalf. IF HE GAVE HIM AN ORDER TO A SHOPKEEPER OR A MONEYCHANGER ON HIS BEHALF, HE IS NOT GUILTY OF INFRINGEMENT. The scholars propounded: Can he [the employee] return [to the employer] or not?11  &mdash...

... it not been taught: There is no transgression [in this case]? — There it means that he gave him an order to a shopkeeper or a money-changer. Shall we say that the following supports him: If one gave his garment to an artisan [i.e., cloth, to make a garment, which he completed and then informed him [that it was ready], even after ten days he does not transgress [the law], 'Thou shalt not keep...

... if the employer pleads that he paid him without witnesses, the employee could then receive payment without swearing. Let this be a Rabbinical measure, with the result that if the worker subsequently claims that he has not been paid, he will be disbelieved. The employer, because he may not yet have the money; the employee, because he may lose it whilst working in the field. Reverting to the final...

... convinced the U. S. money system would be reformed" Five men who were later to head various governments met as members of the International Socialist Bureau of the Second International! Trotsky was introduced and recommended to Kuhn, Loeb & Co Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of America At the start of World War I, Edmond Rothschild told Dr. Chaim Weizmann that "It would spread to the Middle...

... were robbed and weakened by inflation British War Cabinet lists Kuhn, Loeb & Co. and other Zionist bankers who financed Red Russian Revolution Third International was organized by Zionists It is very largely our fault that Bolshevism has spread The prime movers for the Bolshevists were Jacob Schiff, Warburg and other international financiers Trotsky was furnished large sums of money in America...

... various books, their authors, the publishing firms and the dates of publication. I. B. means "International Banker," A. M. means "American Mercury," p. means "page," MMM means 'Money Made Mysterious." 1896 Theodor Herzl published "The Jewish State". It became the Zionists' bible Theodor Herzl published "The Jewish State." It became the Zionists' bible. The following exact quotes are from Herzl's book...

... before Christmas. It permitted aliens, through our privately owned Federal Reserve Banks to finance the world wars which were "planned." Elihu Root blasted this dangerous act in the Senate December 13, 1913. (See MONEY MADE MYSTERIOUS - 3rd Book.) 4,000 pages of fine print was later slipped into it! It was cooked up at Baruch's Jekyl Island in a secret conference. The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) was...

... masses. This gave the Internationalists and their Controlled Press control of the senators by their control of all communication media. They already had it on the Congressmen. From this date forward, we were to be lied to, brainwashed and betrayed: Nationalism was thrown out the window for un-American internationalism. The money properly belonging to the citizen was taken from him by the Marxist...

... after I was convinced the U. S. money system would be reformed" Paul M. Warburg said, at a Congressional hearing: "I only decided to become a citizen after I was convinced the U. S. money system would be reformed." (THE HIDDEN EMPIRE, p. 63.) Five men who were later to head various governments met as members of the International Socialist Bureau of the Second International! Five men who were later to...

... furnished the zest for the whispering campaigns of two Presidential elections ... Wilson had written hundreds of letters to the charming divorcee." George S. Viereck 80.283. "It seems that the Peck letters were finally acquired by the Wilson estate." George S. Viereck. "Mrs. Peck never demanded and Woodrow Wilson never paid hush money or blackmail." (Edward Mandell House) Probably correct - putting...

... Louis D. Brandeis - May 10. Jacob Schiff financed the enemies of autocratic Russia "The firm of Kuhn Loeb & Company floated the largest Japanese war loan of 1904-05 thus making possible the Japanese victory over Russia" ... "Jacob Schiff financed the enemies of autocratic Russia and used his financial influence to keep Russia from the money markets of the United States." Jacob Schiff determined to...

... feudalism has led to the domination of the money-lender, and the money-lender is in most cases a Jew." The Zionist Committee should be granted Governmental privileges We quote from Page 187 of TWO STUDIES IN VIRTUE by Christopher Sykes, as follows: "Sokolow made a simple request, namely that the Zionist Committee should have facilities for communications abroad. He pointed out they were an international...

... all to bolster up the Jewish Bolshevists." (Henry Wickham Steed, THROUGH THIRTY YEARS, New York, 1924, Vol. 2, p. 302. Library of Congress: D 397. S 75.) Trotsky was furnished large sums of money in America and ... sent to Russia "... Trotsky was furnished large sums of money in America and ... sent to Russia." (Erich Ludendorff, KRIEGSHETZE UND VOLKERMORDEN IN DEN LETZTEN 150 JAHREN. Muenchen, 1936...

...-MERCHANT, NEVER SEEING KHIDR WHILE HE PLIED HIS TRADE FOR THREE YEARS. HE HAD SAVED QUITE A LARGE SUM OF MONEY, AND WAS THINKING OF BUYING A HOUSE, WHEN KHIDR APPEARED AND SAID, "GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, WALK OUT OF THIS TOWN AS FAR AS THE DISTANT SAMARKAND, AND WORK FOR A GROCER THERE." MOJUD DID SO. PRESENTLY HE BEGAN TO SHOW UNDOUBTED SIGNS OF ILLUMINATION. HE HEALED THE SICK, SERVED HIS FELLOW...

... SKIN-MERCHANT. I SAVED SOME MONEY THERE, BUT GAVE IT AWAY. THEN I WALKED TO SAMARKAND WHERE I WORKED FOR A GROCER. AND THIS IS WHERE I AM NOW." "BUT THIS INEXPLICABLE BEHAVIOR THROWS NO LIGHT UPON YOUR STRANGE GIFTS AND WONDERFUL EXAMPLES," SAID THE BIOGRAPHERS. "THAT IS SO," SAID MOJUD. SO THE BIOGRAPHERS CONSTRUCTED FOR MOJUD A WONDERFUL AND EXCITING STORY: BECAUSE ALL...

... many times, before one arrives to the ultimate love, God. Ordinarily we seek and search for God only in limits: whatsoever is allowed by our conditions without risking anything. You are earning money, you are having success in life; you can spare one hour for the temple or for meditation. Once in a while you can pray too. Or at least in the night, before you go to bed, you can repeat the same prayer...

.... "Poor Mojud!" they said. "He has gone mad!" - because everyone in the world thinks he is sane. They cannot believe why one should meditate. For what? They constantly go on asking the person who meditates, prays, "Why? What are you getting into? For what? Why are you wasting your time sitting silently and gazing at your navel? Don't waste time! Time is money! You can do many...

...;What has happened?" - she had become a sannyasin. And she knows much of the world, she is a money-expert, so naturally she is worldly- wise. She must have thought that this was quick and efficient, that she was not even willing to become a sannyasin and she is a sannyasin now. But she is intelligent too: soon she had understood that it was not I pushing her into sannyas. I was just mirroring her...

...: one who simply obeys. IN MOSUL HE BECAME KNOWN AS THE SKIN-MERCHANT, NEVER SEEING KHIDR WHILE HE PLIED HIS TRADE FOR THREE YEARS. HE HAD SAVED QUITE A LARGE SUM OF MONEY, AND WAS THINKING OF BUYING A HOUSE, WHEN KHIDR APPEARED AND SAID, "GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, WALK OUT OF THIS TOWN AS FAR AS THE DISTANT SAMARKAND, AND WORK FOR A GROCER THERE." MOJUD DID SO. It will happen to you too, many...

... times - this story is YOUR story. You are living in the world of a Sufi. That's why I said listen to this story as deeply as possible, let it sink in! Now he had collected a large sum of money, and natu-rally he was thinking to purchase a house. And for three years he had not heard from Khidr at all. The moment you start thinking of purchasing a house - that means the moment you start thinking of...

... settling - the Master comes and unsettles you. If he had not thought about the house Khidr might not have appeared yet. But the moment he had the money, the possibility to become a householder, to purchase a house and settle forever.... With a Master you can never settle forever in anything. The Master has to go on changing you. The moment you feel now your roots are getting deep into the soil, you will...

... the goal, then your life is the life of a sannyasin. KHIDR APPEARED AND SAID, "GIVE ME YOUR MONEY...." Now he had earned, worked for three years continuously, and all the hopes are destroyed. And not only is the money taken away, he is ordered to walk as distant as possible, to the faraway DISTANT SAMARKAND, AND WORK FOR A GROCER THERE. MOJUD DID SO. PRESENTLY HE BEGAN TO SHOW UNDOUBTED...

... beautiful. "I JUMPED INTO A RIVER, BECAME A FISHERMAN, THEN WALKED OUT OF HIS REED-HUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. AFTER THAT, I BECAME A FARMHAND. WHILE I WAS BALING WOOL,, I CHANGED AND WENT TO MOSUL, WHERE I BECAME A SKIN-MERCHANT. I SAVED SOME MONEY THERE, BUT GAVE IT AWAY. THEN I WALKED TO SAMARKAND WHERE I WORKED FOR A GROCER. AND THIS IS WHERE I AM NOW." Now what kind of spiritual life is...

... you start a bank?" "Nobody, I wrote the name 'Bank' and put the sign on my door. I had no trust in it that it would work, but I had nothing to do. I was unemployed, so I thought why not try. And within a few hours a man came and deposited his money. I was surprised. I looked at the man; I thought this seems to be the greatest fool in the town. I may escape with his money. Then came another...

... and another, and by the evening I had deposits of a lot of money. And looking into these people's eyes, I became so confident that I deposited my own money in the bank!" That's how it works. If you just declare that you are a world teacher, you are bound to find disciples. And when the disciples come, certainly, you have to be truly a world teacher. And sometimes it will happen that not only...

... his energies will start moving in other directions. He will become more ambitious. A really sexual person will not be ambitious. Why? He will not hanker to become the prime minister or the president. Why? The energy that becomes ambition is repressed sex. A sexually free person will not try to become anybody. Whatsoever he is, he is beautifully happy. Why should he bother to hoard money ...? When...

... you cannot love, you hoard money; money is a substitute. You will never find a money hoarder a loving person, and you will never find a loving person a money hoarder. It is very difficult. Money is a substitute; it is a pseudo love affair. You are afraid to make love to a woman or a man, so you make love to dollars, rupees, pounds. Have you not seen when a miser comes across money? Have you seen the...

... light that comes to his eyes, and how the face becomes luminous, as if he is looking at a beautiful woman or a beautiful man ...? Just give him a hundred-dollar note, a greenback, and see how he touches it, how he feels it. Saliva starts flowing. It is a love affair. Just look when he opens his money box and looks into it. He is facing God. Money is his God, his beloved. And when an ambitious person...

..., priests, politicians - and these are all in the same boat. Somebody is after money, somebody is after power, somebody is after fame, but nobody seems to be interested in one's own self. Nobody seems to be ready to go on that great pilgrimage of self-discovery. Buddha says: MASTER YOURSELF.... If you are at all interested in mastery - and who is not interested? - then become interested in self-mastery...

... you as if you are not a human being. He looks at you as doomed, as doomed to hell, bound towards hell, already falling into the bottomless pit of hell. He looks at you with condemnation, with pity. But pity is not compassion, and condemnation simply shows that he has not known anything at all. He is just the same type of person as you are, only standing on his head. You are greedy for money, he is...

... afraid of money. You are related to money through greed, he is related to it through fear. But both are related to money, both are obsessed with money. It is said that if you take money to Vinoba Bhave he immediately closes his eyes - he can't see money. Now this looks ridiculous - there must be great fear. Just a ten-rupee note... why should you be so afraid of it that you have to close your eyes? But...

... because he closes his eyes - he never touches money, he does not want to see money - he is revered as a great saint. But this fear of money, this antagonism, is a kind of relationship. He is not free of money, otherwise why close his eyes? And a ten-rupee note is nothing but a piece of paper. You don't close your eyes when you look at other pieces of paper - why give so much importance to this piece of...

... sane. But because insanity is so widespread, it is so normal that we don't become aware of it.... Once YOU become awakened then you are surprised how people are living, what they are doing to themselves and to others. Their whole life is nothing but sheer madness. Somebody is mad after money, somebody is mad after power, somebody is mad after fame - and all these things are futile. Death comes, and...

... religion healthy. Buddhas have been trying, but up to now they have failed, because nobody listens to them. Man's mind has a strategy: it moves to its opposite very easily. You are running after money, then one day you see the whole stupidity of it and you start escaping from money. Now this is again remaining obsessed with the same money; money still remains the center of your focus. First you were...

... moving towards it, now you are moving away from it, but it is your reference; your whole life still has that context. You still think in terms of money - how much you have or how much you have renounced, but you go on counting. Once a man came to Ramakrishna with a bag full of golden coins. He poured those golden coins onto the feet of Ramakrishna. There were many people sitting around; they were all...

... surprised by how much money this man had brought, and he was pouring it onto the feet of Ramakrishna. What devotion! But Ramakrishna was not happy. He said, "You are pouring it in such a way that it seems you want to impress people. You are performing! Fill the bag again with the money and go to the Ganges" - and the Ganges was just behind Ramakrishna's temple - - "and throw all the money...

..., look at the coin, and then throw it into the Ganges. And many people would jump into the Ganges to find the coin. He was making a great show of it. Hundreds of people had gathered and he was counting, "One, two, three, four...." Ramakrishna went there and said, "You fool! When one collects money one counts, but when one is throwing it into the Ganges what is the point of counting? For...

..., it became too boring, it became such an ugly scene. He was fed up with it, so he escaped. Buddha's father was angry, very wounded. He wanted him to become a king and he became a buddha. He was not happy. In his own mind, to be a king was a greater thing than to be a buddha. To have more money and more fame - worldly fame - was more important to him than to be a meditator and attain to samadhi...

..., that is your treasure. And you will be surprised that when you reach to the other shore, the beyond, your treasure will be awaiting you there, to rejoice, to receive, to welcome you. Either you can collect money, power, prestige - which will be left on this shore - or you can accumulate a totally different kind of treasure: of meditation, of love, of bliss, of understanding, of awareness, of...