... division; that if you are hungry you won't purchase a television, you will purchase food which is a more basic necessity. But if you have enough food you are not going to go on purchasing food. You will start thinking of purchasing something else - better furniture, a better house, a television, or radio or literature or music. You will start, but if suddenly your money is gone then the first things to...

..., but you cannot become a good man. It happened that just in the last part of the last century, Rani Rasmani built a temple in Calcutta, in Dakshineshwar on the bank of the Ganges. But Rani Rasmani was not a high-caste Hindu, she was a sudra, she was untouchable. So no brahmin was ready to worship in her temple, although she was immensely rich and she was ready to give as much money as you wanted. And...

... she explained to the brahmins, "I have not even entered the temple; I simply go up to the steps and bow down from there. I have not entered the inner shrine; I have not even seen the statue of Krishna that is inside the temple. It is made with my money, but money cannot be sudra because money is continuously changing hands from sudra to brahmin, from brahmin to chhatriya. So you cannot call the...

... temples are made by sudras, there is no question about it. And money does not matter - money goes on moving. And I cannot refuse her because it is a question of Krishna being there, unworshipped. You have made Krishna also a sudra, an untouchable. The rani herself cannot enter. I am going." He went. The rani was happy but alerted because the man looked a little eccentric. But someone was better...

... society is based on judgment. Even our so-called fair courts are all judgmental, prejudiced. Just the other day I was looking at a judgment one court in America has given against my commune. In the judgment the judge has made it clear that all the laws are in favor of my commune, but still he feels that the money - one hundred and forty thousand dollars - should be given to this man, from the commune's...

... fund. He says in his judgment "I assume" - that is a strange word in a judgment - "I assume that this man needs that money. All the laws are in favor of the commune. They are for the commune." And that man was a servant of the commune. He was receiving one thousand dollars per month. He managed, with the clerk who was giving the salaries, that rather than getting one thousand...

... been damaged. His act has not been yet decided, whether he cheated the commune or not, but because we have put the case against him and published it in the paper, his name has been condemned, and he needs the money. And the judge himself feels that all the laws are in our favor, but still he "assumes". Our whole society depends on aspects, judgmental. Now this judge must have been feeling...

..., that I have thousands of followers who can do anything for me, that I have unaccounted sources of money, that however big the bail is - five million dollars, ten million dollars - I can jump it and go out of America. I have not committed any crime. My arrest is unjustified, but bail cannot be given because I am capable of getting out of America. This raises two points. One, is America such a weak...

... much money he may manage to get out of America. Then no rich man should be given bail. But for me a special reasoning has been found: the real thing has been put aside, that I have been arrested illegally without any arrest warrant, without any reason for arrest; and a secondary thing, which is absolutely illogical, has been used. That means only poor people can get bail, the very poor who cannot...

... escape, who cannot purchase a ticket from one place to another place, who don't have any friends - only these people can get bail. Anybody who has friends, who has money, who has sources, cannot be given bail. And the real reason... when I came back to the jail, the jailer was very much shocked. The old man's eyes had tears. He told me, "This is sheer injustice as I have never seen in my life...

...... and not only your condemnation, the way you told me, the way you looked at me." I refused to go in that car. I got out. I said, "Tell the ashram to send another car. This lady smells too much of smoke." The driver said, "I will be in trouble because you were not smoking and this woman is dangerous. She gives money, so she has great hold in the ashram." I said, "Either...

... unnecessarily wasting money. And he was so particular and such a perfectionist that only the best satisfied him. If I would not take something then he would find ways somehow to smuggle the thing into my house. Once, when I was leaving - I used to stay with him at least three days every year, that was a commitment. So three days I used to stay with him every year, and when I was leaving he said to me - which...

... said, "He is so miserly, and he has so much money. And we have only three daughters, who are married and have rich houses, so there is no problem. And there is no son, there is nobody after us, but he goes on collecting - even I don't know how much he has." They lived in a place, Chanda, in Maharashtra. She said, "He had purchased almost one-third of the houses of the city - it seems...

... he is going to purchase the whole city. If there is any house for sale, he is not going to let anybody else purchase it. And his only joy seems to be just accumulating money. I have brought many Jaina monks" - because they were Jainas, and they were Gandhians - "and I have brought many great disciples of Gandhi, thinking perhaps somebody will change his mind. But he is very straight and...

... sex as an instinct that is forcing him to do something, he becomes in a certain way a master of himself and he starts having insights, visions which the unconscious, instinctive man cannot have. Just looking at me - not a single word had been said - he said, "I have found the person." And then whenever I needed any amount of money, for myself or somebody else, I had just to inform him...

..., "Give this much money to this man." He never asked, "Who is this man and why is so much money needed for him?" He simply gave it. His wife was simply shocked. She could not believe that this miserly man... how suddenly he had completely become just the opposite. I told her, "There is no problem. He is not miserly - it was your misunderstanding. He never wanted to give to those...

.... The instinctive man clings to everything: to sex, to money, to power - to everything. I asked him, "Why do you go on purchasing all the houses?" He said, "Some day you may like to have a commune - then from where am I going to suddenly give you a commune? By that time I will have purchased the whole city. I know that you will take a little time before you need a place - I am preparing...

... think I am a miser - I don't care a bit about money. What am I going to do with the money? Soon I will die and all this money will be lying here. But to travel in the third class is an experience: the crowd, the people, the gossips, and things that go on happening in the third class of an Indian railway train...." He had traveled all over India, and he had friends at every station; he would call...

... telling him, "You are getting trapped. First, why did you come back from the university? Don't you have any guts? You could have done anything - pulled a rickshaw, been a coolie at the railway station. You could have done anything." I told him, "Your poetry is just lousy. They stopped sending money to you so you are back; now they are arranging your marriage and you don't know that that...

... simply Krishnamurti and I am nobody's Master. And I am not a Jagadguru, not a World Teacher. And I dissolve this nonsense and this organization and the whole thing that has been made around me." They were shocked! They could not believe it: "Has he gone mad, crazy?" They had put much hope in him, much money; it was a great investment, years of training. But it was going to be so. If he...

..., unconditionally divine. There are not 'gods' and 'not gods' - the whole existence is made of one fibre and that fibre is divinity. But there are people who go on searching new trips for the ego. Sometimes it is money, sometimes it is politics, sometimes it is religion, but the search is the same - the ego. And religion happens only when there is an ego-loss; when the ego is lost, when the ego is shattered, and...

... great crowd - people coming and bringing money and flowers. And in the night the man would say to me, "This is incredible! You must be doing something," he said to me, "because how can I raise their kundalini? I don't know anything about kundalini - my own has not risen yet! You must be doing something, you are playing a trick - otherwise, how can it happen? And one person can be a fool...

... with them? A poor man also sometimes comes to me, but then he comes for something which I cannot supply. He asks for success. His son is not getting employed; he asks, "Bless him, Osho." His wife is ill, or he is losing money in his business. These are symptoms of a poor man, one who is asking about things of this world. When a rich person comes to me, he has money, he has employment, he...

... religious, he has to be forgiven. If a rich man is not religious, his sin is unpardonable. I am a rich man's guru. Absolutely it is so. Let me tell you one anecdote: They were married for twenty-five years and had their biggest argument on the day of their silver anniversary. She never hit harder or lower: "If it weren't for my money, that TV set wouldn't be here. If it weren't for my money, the very...

... chair you're sitting on wouldn't be here!" "Are you kidding?" he interrupted. "If it weren't for your money - I wouldn't be here!" And let me say this to you: If it were not for your money, you would not have been here. You are here because you are frustrated with your money. You are here because you are frustrated with your success. You are here because you are frustrated...

... ultimate luxury. Either you have to be very rich to come to this luxury, or you have to be tremendously intelligent. But in both the cases you are rich - rich with money or rich with intelligence. I have never seen a person who is really poor - poor in intelligence, poor in riches - ever become religious. Kabir becomes religious. He was not a millionaire, but he was tremendously intelligent. Buddha...

... SHEELA CONSULTED YOU ABOUT THE PLANS FOR THE SHARE-A-HOME PROGRAM, AND YOU TOLD HER IT WAS PERFECTLY GOOD TO START THE PROGRAM IF MONEY WAS AVAILABLE. IS THAT AN ACCURATE QUOTE? A:* I was not involved. And to me, what she had said was not anything political. She had said it is a humanitarian program. And certainly I am interested in humanity. It is not politics. But she was deceiving me. I have come to...

... SANNYASINS AS THE "BEVERLY HILLS MONEY CROWD." AND CONCERN HAS BEEN EXPRESSED THAT ONCE AGAIN THE POWER HAS PASSED TO A CLOSE-KNIT ELITE GROUP OF FAVORITES. WOULD YOU RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE? A:* They are absolutely wrong, whosoever have been informing you. My own understanding is that the people who were in power all came from poor families, and I HATE poverty. And whenever a poor person gets an...

... opportunity, then he is bound to take advantage to be rich, to be powerful, and that's what happened. So this time, what I have advised to my people -- give power to those who already have enough money, and are no more interested in taking money from you. On the contrary, they will be putting their money in the commune. And secondly, the people who have taken place, are very creative people. President Prem...

... Sheela. Everybody who has been thrown away by Sheela has been telling to INS people, all kinds of things. Now let them come here. Q:* SO YOU WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN JUNE OF '81 IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH DEEKSHA AND SHEELA? A:* No. But I knew this. Later on, Sheela herself has said that "Any moment you can be deported, so we are putting some money in a Swiss Bank. It is for you, but it is in my name...

... -- Sheela's and Savita's name." I said how much is the money? What is the Bank and what is the bank account number? If it is in my name at least this much I should know. She said "I have forgotten, I will have to look and find it out." And since then she has not seen me. Q:* WHEN DID YOU ASK HER ABOUT THAT INFORMATION, WHERE THE BANK ACCOUNT WAS LOCATED? WHAT DATE? A:* This is just the last...

..., and I was perfectly happy. I said okay, you can take charge if Sheela is going and she wants to go, we don't prevent anybody. You can become my secretary and you can take the charge. I asked her about the Swiss Bank account because that money belongs to the commune and I don't need it, for the simple reason that I'm not going from America anywhere. So she said that 'tomorrow morning I will bring the...

... whole information.' Even she would not say how much money, and I don't think that you can forget that it is $43 million. It is impossible to forget that big money. And the second morning she also disappeared. She never came back because now she is afraid that now she has to bring that information to me. Q:* WOULD YOU RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUOTES THAT SHEELA HAS GIVEN? SHE SAYS, "I TOLD BHAGWAN...

... the challenge. We have nothing to lose. They have everything to lose. Q:* BUT THE COMMUNITY, NOT YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL -- HAVE SPENT MILLIONS TO CREATE A... A:* Does not matter! Money does not matter at all. Q:* DO THEN YOU DO FEEL THREATENED BY ALL THIS ACTIVITY. A:* No. I don't feel THREATENED. I simply feel excited. Q:* HOW DO YOU MEAN THAT? A:* Very ecstatic. Q:* DO YOU FEEL AS IF IT'S IMPORTANT...

... thing. Then he chooses it. But it is his CHOICE. And people will not be so mad after money. Money is a substitute for love. When you don't get love you start trying to have more money, more money. Money is a substitute for love. That's why people who are very miserly about money are very loveless people. They cannot afford to be loving. If they are loving they cannot be miserly - these don't go...

... together. A loving person is never a miser and a miser is never a loving person. He need no love. His love is money, his God is money, he worships money. That's enough. Then there are power addicts who spend their whole life trying to get more and more powerful - how to reach New Delhi or Washington or Moscow. Their whole life seems to be just an effort to reach the capital. For what? Why do people enjoy...

... 'swami'. 'Swami' means one who has power over himself. His whole search is that 'I should be myself. It is enough, it is immensely satisfying, that I am a master of my own self.' That's enough. Why should you bother to be master of others? But people are missing that basic mastery, hence they are driven into mad ways, into mad paths - politics, money, power, prestige, fame. These are all ugly things...

... desire: it is not a desire for a better house or a better car or more money; it is not a desire for fame, success, power, prestige.... These are very ordinary desires; they cannot integrate you. In fact they disintegrate you, because they are many. One desire pulls you towards the north, another desire pulls you towards the south. And they are many, it is a crowd, and every desire wants to attract you...

..., wants your attention. They are clamouring around you. The desire for money says, "Drop everything else. Have as much money as you can." And the desire for success says, "Even if money has to be lost, don't be worried - you have to become a successful man, you have to be famous, you have to leave a mark in history! Risk everything - money and all." And the desire for sex says, "...

...;Money and power and prestige, what are they going to give you? Enjoy life while it is there - squeeze every moment of it into sensuous pleasure." These so many desires go on pulling you in so many directions; that's why you feel always that you are falling apart. The desire for truth is a singular desire. And it is so big and so huge that all other desires simply disappear into it. These are...

... Goldwater made a great deal of money in the men's clothing business in New York. He gave to all the charities, attended all the fancy balls, had his name in Earl Wilson's column twice a week - and still was not happy. In fact, he was becoming so depressed that a friend suggested he see a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist listened and then said, "Look here, Mr. Goldwater. You have made all this money...

..., "make one more safari. I will pay anything you ask. I am a rich man - money is no object." The safari hunter was moved. "I've heard of you," he said. "I have even worn your suits." He thought a while, then he asked, "Do you mean what you said about money being no object?" "Absolutely," vowed Garfield Goldwater. "All right, here is the deal. In...

...." And that's what finally happened, because those Christian families were not permanent residents of the town - they were all railway employees, so sooner or later they got transferred. He was left alone with a small church that they had made. Now there was nobody to give money, to support him, nobody to listen to him except me. On Sundays he used to say, "Dear friends - " I would say...

... concerned, who is father and who is son? You don't possess me, I don't possess you; it is just an accidental meeting of two strangers. You had no idea to whom you were going to give birth. I had no idea who was going to be my father, my mother. It is just an accidental meeting on the roads. "Don't try to exploit the situation. Don't take advantage because you are powerful, you have money, and I don't...

... toys sweets, clothes, a bicycle, and things like that. You get them, but these are not the real things which are going to make your life blissful. I asked him for money only when I wanted to purchase more books; I never asked money for anything else. And I told him, "When I ask for money for books you had better give it to me." He said, "What do you mean?" I said, "I simply...

... mean that if you don't give it to me then I will have to steal it. I don't want to be a thief but if you force me then there is no way. You know I don't have money. I need these books and I am going to have them, that you know. So if money is not given to me then I will take it; and remember in your mind that it was you who forced me to steal." He said, "No need to steal. Whenever you need...

... money you simply come and take it." And I said, "You be assured it is only for the books," but there was no need for the assurance because he went on seeing my library growing in the house. Slowly there was no place in the house for anything other than my books. And my father said, "Now, first we had a library in our house, now in the library we have a house! And we all have to...

... suitcase," but he was very reluctant because he had stolen the book - and the book was found. I said, "Now you pay the penalty, because this is simply barbarious. "You were a guest here; we respected you, we served you. We did everything for you - and you steal a book of a poor boy who has no money: a boy who has to threaten his father that 'if you don't give me money then I am going to...

... he may start fasting - from eating too much he may go to the extreme of giving up food altogether. If there is too strong an attachment with the world and with money then it is easy to run away from the world. Instead of interest there may be disinterest. Attachment may create detachment. The near and dear ones may appear to be enemies rather than one's own people. There is hardly any difference...

... state means sannyas. We make the world because the loneliness hurts. We try to fill this loneliness with money, with friends, with family, with religion, caste, nation. We make so many efforts to fill this inner void because this wound is painful. But it is wrong to think of it as a wound; it is not a wound. Last night a sannyasin came to me and said that since she has started meditation her heart...

.... Where is the desire for sex when the time for sex is over? Where is the pond when the water dries up? And nobody is close to you when you have lost your money. In the same way, after the realization of truth where is this world? Try to understand this. Whenever Shankara, Buddha or Mahavira talk about the world, you make the mistake of thinking that they are talking about this expanse which is spread...

... real Nasruddin." He must have told his family not to open the door when somebody knocked because he must have owed money to lots of people. So when he himself knocks at the door of his own house nobody opens it. He then has to explain that he is the real Nasruddin. But in spite of it nobody believes. We go on deceiving others and we create a world of deception around us. Then we deceive...

... truth you will start a new search - money will seem meaningless, the body will seem meaningless; the relations of body and money will become meaningless and even the world based on money and body will seem meaningless. And before knowing the truth it is necessary to know the untruth as untruth, the false as false. DAY AND NIGHT, EVENING AND MORNING, WINTER AND SPRING COME AND GO AGAIN AND AGAIN. THUS...

... being you forget the worry, the misery; you forget that you have to return home - that you have a wife and children, that the wife is ill, the children have to be admitted in a school and you don't have the money. You forget your worries as long as you are lost singing the song of the divine. If you are getting lost in singing the song of the divine then this is also like alcohol. If it wakes you up...

... for his son Narayan, and God thought that he was calling Him. Such stories are created by pundits for the consolation of sinners. On the basis of such stories the pundits are able to take some money from the sinners - nothing else is going to happen. If God gets deceived, then surely he is not God. This man went to heaven just because he called "Narayan" while dying? Such a cheap God is...

... not worth obtaining! This type of heaven or salvation is absolutely false. This story cannot be true. Death is the summing up of your whole life; at the moment of death your mind will be full of what you have done during your life. If you have been counting money your whole life then you will be counting it while dying also, because death is the essence of your life. If you have been restless all...

... totally or will have to die. The new man can be born only with a new heart, with a new soul - and the flavor of that soul will be love, and the poetry of that heart will be love. A society that lives lovelessly is competitive, ambitious, obsessed with money, power, prestige. A society that lives without love lives through beliefs. Beliefs divide people, and all divisions breed war. A society that lives...

... direction very easily because he is boiling within. You can make him go after money: then money will be his sex, then his whole sexual energy which is starved will move towards money. Then money will be his beloved, his God, and for his whole life he will run after money. And naturally, sex will haunt him because money cannot satisfy it. You can gather as much money as you want, but how can it satisfy...

... in school - come first! Wherever you are, whatsoever you are doing, you have to be the first." We start a great desire in his mind to be first anywhere he is; this is giving a new direction to his sexual energy. The society is trying to divert his natural energies. We start telling him, "Unless you have a big car, a big house, much money in the bank, you are a failure." He starts...

..., money in the bank becomes his symbol of fulfillment - but only symbols, empty. Deep down he is unfulfilled, deep down he is hankering. The deep consciousness is continuously telling him, "Be natural, let your natural energies flow in a natural, spontaneous way." You ask me, Sukh Deva, "HOW LONG DOES THIS STUPID SEX CONTINUE TO HAUNT ONE?" Why do you call it stupid? You are angry at...