Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Introduction

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Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:22:01 GMT
Some claim the Protocols are forgery.
But even if they are, what does it change?
Does it somehow makes facts non factual?

They claim that the entire passages were taken from
some existing material. But they do not seem to bother
with the fact that the entire human knowledge is such
that you build on the existing material. Otherwise,
you would be reinventing the wheel forever.

Secondly, WHO is the forger if there is no author?

So, what DOES it change even if some passages were taken
from something else? Do they even CARE of whether it
actually makes sense and corresponds to what is actually
happening? Just look at the world affairs, geopolitical
ambitions, at how your minds are being molded by the
media and all sorts of other things. Do you see anything?

Did they look at the very material to see if it makes
sense and whether things are happening just as outlined?

Interestingly enough, some people of the highest caliber
such as Henry Ford and Winston Churchill said
"I don't know if they are real or not, but what I know
is that things seem to be happening EXACTLY is it is outlined
in the protocols".

And these are the people who know it all, in and out.
They have the power, influence and access to just about
anything imaginable. So, why would they say such a thing?
And they have said it nearly 100 years ago,
and things are STILL seem to be happening EXACTLY as it was
outlined in the Protocols.

Those "forgers" must have been pretty insightful to see hundreds
of years into the future.

There is one individual in Russia, Oleg Platonov, the
academician, someone of the highest caliber there is.
He spent his entire life on studying this subject.
He has done research worldwide, visiting some libraries.
He also had access to KGB archives and archives of various
intelligence agencies and other government archives.
Platonov also published a list of the most influential
individuals belonging to different associations, such as
Trilateral Commission, CFR, and all other most influential
clans. That list takes about half of one of his books.
It contains about every single influential representative
of this "NWO" "power elite", including Gorbachev and the
most influential people worldwide, who rule your minds
and control just about everything in the world, short of
oxygen supply.

He used materials from various intelligence agencies,
all sorts of closed archives, and some major libraries.
Again, this is ACADEMICIAN, who spent his entire life
on studying this subject.

Platonov wrote a book called "The Puzzle of the Protocols
of Zion", published in 1999 in Russia.

After WWII, Stalin has ordered for these archives to be
brought to Russia (from Germany). Once those archives were
delivered to Moscow, from then on, he knew perfectly well,
that he can keep the entire Europe on its knees. Because
these archives contained the information on every single
politician or someone of prominence, and they were all
corrupt. If this information would get published, it would
be the end of them. Hitler was obsessed with this issue
and had the tremendous archives.

And he is not alone. There are other individuals of the
highest caliber, who spent their entire lives studying
these issues and the conclusion was pretty much the same.
One of those individuals is Gregory Klimov, who studied
the issues of degeneracy as represented by about the best
kept secret, the High Sociology. He spent 45 years of his
life working on a super-secret project, called the Harvard
Project and the results are simply mind shattering.

And these people are not some mouth foaming, blood boiling
perverts as this so called opposition, spending millions
on publication of ALL sorts of pseudo "research", trying
to distribute disinformation about the nature of it all,
all of which is financed by the same clans that rule the
world, suffocate it on every conceivable level, and are
ruthless enough to put ANY country on its knees, just as
outlined in the protocols.

"If we put all the gold we have in our possession,
we can put any country of the world on its knees,
and they will sing a song we ordered".

THAT is what we are dealing with here.
The entire world's economic system may be destroyed
if necessary. ANY country of the world can be destroyed
via simple economics means such as banking system.
And that is the REALITY of what you have all seen
during the last 10 years, and what you have seen is just

Listen to the Jewish banker, Paul Warburg:

"We will have a world government whether you like it or not.
The only question is whether that government will be achieved
by conquest or consent."

(February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).

Can you imagine THIS kind of arrogance?
To say such a thing before the US Senate?
To put it SO bluntly?
Spit into the faces of the Highest level governmental
"officials" of nothing less then the most influential
country of the world?

WHO is this so called opposition to these protocols?
Isn't it is exactly the same people who cherish these
protocols as the highest value there is?

Has anyone bothered to look into Torah?
Do you wish to see the direct quotes from some of those

Here is just a small sample:

(as posted on Usenet, message ID:
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Kethoboth 3b: "The seed (sperm, child) of a Christian is of no
more value than that of a beast."

Baba Kama 113a: "A Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.
b. "The name of God is not profaned when lying to Christians."

Hikkoth Akum X 1: "Do not save Christians in danger of death."

Kohar I 160a: "Jews must always try to deceive Christians."

Zohar I 25b: "Those who do good to Christians will never rise
from the dead."

Zohar II 43a: "Extermination of Christians is a necessary sacrifice."

Zohar II 64b: "The Christian birthrate must be materially diminished."

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a
city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be
punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must
be killed.

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him
for work.

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no
death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the
law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent
a Gentile.

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth)
from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is
eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with
a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him.
God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man
should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited
long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy
is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following
prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile,
a woman or a slave."

Rabbi Meir Kahane, told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs
are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane
and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that
they commit violence against goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews.
(NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that
Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing."
(NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth
a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

Toldoth Jeschu: Says Judas and Jesus engaged in a quarrel
with human excrement.

Kelhubath (11a-11b): "When a grown-up man has had intercourse with
a little girl...

GIRL IT IS NOTHING, for when the girl is less than this THREE YEARS
OLD it is as if one puts the finger into the eye [Again See Footnote]
tears come to the eye again and again, SO DOES VIRGINITY COME BACK

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Aren't these EXACTLY the same ideas as recorded in
the protocols?

But these accusers do not even seem to care whether
material corresponds to reality to the last dot and
comma. Nor do they have access to the information on
the highest level in governments, military and intelligence
communities to see whether things ARE in fact happening
EXACTLY as outlined in these very protocols.

It all seems to be irrelevant to these propaganda
and disinformation peddlers and assorted agents, foaming at the
mouth and shouting "forgery! forgery! forgery!".

And they do it in EXACTLY the same way as outlined in those
protocols, which is evidence of validity of those protocols
by itself.

The entire mankind's heritage is nothing but "forgery".
Otherwise, you'd be reinventing the wheel forever.
So, what if those ideas were indeed taken from
some known work? What does it change?
Does it make the very ideas somehow invalid?

What if Rothschild, as some believe to be the author,
has taken these ideas from ancient Romans and
modified them to correspond to modern views?

Why don't you read it for yourself and find out
if it makes any sense to you. Compare it to what you
see in your real life and that which makes sense,
you keep, and that which doesn't, you just throw away.

Is anybody saying that this is the word of God
and you MUST take it for what it says?
Read it as a novel. You don't go to the author
of a novel and accuse him of "forgery", do you?

Just take is as mind stimulating experience
and see how much your real life is affected by
what it says in those protocols?

Why do you need to mix Russian Tsar into equation
and try to prove something, you can not, by ANY
measure whatsoever.

Do YOU have ANY hard evidence on the very nature of it all?
Do YOU know what actually happened and what this is
all about?
Do YOU know what was the intent behind it?
Do you know WHO stands behind it all?
What DO you know of just about ANY value?

Can those people simply use their minds
instead of yelling their heads off
and foaming at the mouth?

Here is some interesting quotes on the subject of
"it is all nothing but forgery":


Listen to the Jewish banker, Paul Warburg:

"We will have a world government whether you like it or not.
The only question is whether that government will be achieved
by conquest or consent."

(February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).


The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews
is greater and deeper than the difference between a human
soul and the souls of cattle"

-- Quotes by Jewish Rabbis


"We need a program of psychosurgery and
political control of our society. The purpose is
physical control of the mind. Everyone who
deviates from the given norm can be surgically

The individual may think that the most important
reality is his own existence, but this is only his
personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective.

Man does not have the right to develop his own
mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great
appeal. We must electrically control the brain.
Some day armies and generals will be controlled
by electrical stimulation of the brain."

--- Dr. Jose Delgado (MKULTRA experimenter who
    demonstrated a radio-controlled bull on CNN in 1985)
    Director of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University
    Medical School.
    Congressional Record No. 26, Vol. 118, February 24, 1974


December 31, 1999 -- Washington Monument sprays colored light
into the black night sky, symbolizing the
birth of the New World Order.

1996 -- The United Nations 420-page report
Our Global Neighborhood is published.

It outlines a plan for "global governance," calling for an
international Conference on Global Governance in 1998
for the purpose of submitting to the world the necessary
treaties and agreements for ratification by the year 2000.


"There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in
ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience.
They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a
few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our
continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy."

--- Israeli president Moshe Katsav.
    The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001


"The Palestinians are like crocodiles,
the more you give them meat,
they want more"....

--- Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel
    at the time - August 28, 2000.
    Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000


"[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."

--- Menahim Begin,
    speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk,
    "Begin and the Beasts".
    New Statesman, 25 June 1982.


"The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ...
heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

--- Israeli Prime Minister
    (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers
    New York Times April 1, 1988


"When we have settled the land,
all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be
to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."

--- Raphael Eitan,
    Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces,
    New York Times, 14 April 1983.


"How can we return the occupied territories?
There is nobody to return them to."

--- Golda Meir,
    March 8, 1969.


"There was no such thing as Palestinians,
they never existed."

--- Golda Meir,
    Israeli Prime Minister, June 15, 1969


"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us
in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical
existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after
the war."

--- Israeli General Matityahu Peled,
    Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.


Ben Gurion also warned in 1948:

"We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians)
never do return."

Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come
back to their homes.

"The old will die and the young will forget."


"We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned
to live here as slaves."

--- Chairman Heilbrun
    of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat,
    the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

Following are some direct quotes from the Protocols.

"People's minds should be diverted (away from contemplation)
towards industry and trade, and then they will have no time to
think. The people will be consumed by the pursuit of gain. It
will be vain pursuit, for we shall put industry on a speculative
basis: what is withdrawn from the land by industry will slip
through the hands of workers and industrialists and pass into
the hands of financiers.

The intensified struggle for survival and superiority,
accompanied by crises and shocks will create cold and
heartless communities with strong aversion towards religion.
Their only guide is gain that is Mammon, which they will erect
into a veritable cult".

"There is a great force that creates the movement of
thought in the people, and that is the media. It is in the media
that the triumph of freedom of speech finds its incarnation.
Through the Press we have gained the power to influence
minds while remaining unobserved. We shall erase from the
memory of men the historical facts we do not want them to
know, and leave only those we wish".

"The race of armaments and the increase of police force will
bring forth society where are only the masses of the
proletariat, a few millionaires, police and soldiers".

"Freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State
economy without injury to the well-being of the people if it
rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the
Brotherhood of humanity. This is the reason why it is
indispensable for us to undermine all faith, to tear out of the
people's mind the very principle of God and the Spirit, and to
put in its place arithmetical calculations and material needs".

"politicians who, in case of disobedience to our instructions,
must face criminal charges or disappear. We shall arrange
elections in favour of candidates with some dark, undiscovered
stain in their past. They will be our trustworthy agents out of
fear of revelations"

--- The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,
    The master plan of Illuminati NWO

Re: Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion

This is a secret which has not been revealed.
They are the Hidden hand.
They are not the "Board of Deputies"
(the Jewish Parliament in England)
or the "Universal Israelite Alliance" which sits in Paris.

But the late Walter Rathenau of the Allgemeiner Electricitaets
Gesellschaft has thrown a little light on the subject and doubtless
he was in possession of their names, being, in all likelihood,
one of the chief leaders himself.

Writing in the WIENER FREIE PRESSE, December 24, 1912, he said:

"Three hundred men, each of whom knows all the others,
govern the fate of the European continent, and they elect their
successors from their entourage."

In the year 1844, on the eve of the Jewish Revolution of 1848,
Benjamin Disraeli, whose real name was Israel, and who was a
"damped," or baptized Jew, published his novel, CONINGSBY,
in which occurs this ominous passage:

"The world is governed by very different personages from what
is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

And he went on to show that these personages were all Jews.

Notes II - The Symbolic Snake of Judaism.

Protocol III opens with a reference to the Symbolic Snake of
Judaism. In his Epilogue to the 1905 Edition of the Protocols,
Nilus gives the following interesting account of this symbol:

"According to the records of secret Jewish Zionism, Solomon
and other Jewish learned men already, in 929 B.C., thought out
a scheme in theory for a peaceful conquest of the whole universe
by Zion.

As history developed, this scheme was worked out in detail and
completed by men who were subsequently initiated in this question.

These learned men decided by peaceful means to conquer the world
for Zion with the slyness of the Symbolic Snake, whose head
was to represent those who have been initiated into the plans
of the Jewish administration, and the body of the Snake to represent
the Jewish people - the administration was always kept secret,

As this Snake penetrated into the hearts of the nations which it
encountered it undermined and devoured all the non-Jewish power
of these States.

It is foretold that the Snake has still to finish its work,
strictly adhering to the designed plan, until the course which
it has to run is closed by the return of its head to Zion and until,
by this means, the Snake has completed its round of Europe and has
encircled it - and until, by dint of enchaining Europe, it has
encompassed the whole world.

This it is to accomplish by using every endeavor to subdue the
other countries by an ECONOMICAL CONQUEST.

The return of the head of the Snake to Zion can only be accomplished
after the power of all the Sovereign of Europe has been laid low,
that is to say, when by means of economic crises and wholesale
destruction effected everywhere, there shall have been brought about
a spiritual demoralization and a moral corruption, chiefly with the
assistance of Jewish women masquerading as French, Italians, etc..

These are the surest spreaders of licentiousness into the lives of
the leading men at the heads of nations.

A map of the course of the Symbolic Snake is shown as follows:
- Its first stage in Europe was in 429 B.C. in Greece, where,
about the time of Pericles, the Snake first started eating into
the power of that country.

The second stage was in Rome in the time of Augustus, about 69 B.C..

The third in Madrid in the time of Charles V, in A.D. 1552.

The fourth in Paris about 1790, in the time of Louis XVI.

The fifth in London from 1814 onwards (after the downfall of Napoleon).

The sixth in Berlin in 1871 after the Franco-Prussian war.

The seventh in St. Petersburg, over which is drawn the head of
the Snake under the date of 1881.

[This "Snake" is now being drawn through the Americas and in the
United States of America, it is been partially identified as the
"Counsel on Foreign Relations" (C.F.R.) and
the "Tri-Lateral Commission"].

All these States which the Snake traversed have had the foundations
of their constitutions shaken, Germany, with its apparent power,
forming no exception to the rule.

In economic conditions, England and Germany are spared,
but only till the conquest of Russia is accomplished by the Snake,
on which at present [i.e., 1905] all its efforts are concentrated.

The further course of the Snake is not shown on this map,
but arrows indicate its next movement towards Moscow, Kiev and Odessa.

It is now well known to us to what extent the latter cities form the
centuries of the militant Jewish race. Constantinople is shown as the
last stage of the Snake's course before it reaches Jerusalem.

(This map was drawn years before the occurrence of the "Young Turk"
- i.e., Jewish - Revolution in Turkey). den.

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